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The Future of the Submarine Enterprise -

People Harnessing Technology, in a System of Systems

6th Annual Conference

November 4, 2025

Venue: National Arts Centre,
Ottawa, ON Canada

Agenda

November 4, 2025

7:30 – 8:15

Registration

8:15 – 8:30

Welcome  

Master of Ceremonies:  Sarah McMillan, Chief Operating Officer, Babcock Canada
Terri Pavelic,
Editor in Chief, Vanguard Media

8:20– 8:25

Platinum sponsor announcement

Rear-Admiral Jason Armstrong, Chief of Naval Capability, Canadian Armed Forces

8:30 – 9:00

Opening Keynote

9:00 – 10:25

Panel 1

Moderator:

Commodore James Clarke RCN (Ret’d)


Panelists:

Commander Éric Isabelle, Project Director - Canadian Patrol Submarine, Royal Canadian Navy

Lieutenant-Commander William (Bill) Smallman RCN (Ret’d)

Lieutenant-Commander Doug Renken RCN (Ret’d), Program Manager, Victoria Class Trainers & Victoria Class Submarine Command Team Trainer In-Service Support Contracts, MDA Space

Preparing the People

How does Canada prepare the people side of a future submarine fleet. What we have now is not necessarily what is needed for tomorrow. How can Industry assist? What abilities need to be developed?

What is needed to design a training philosophy that supports the operations and maintenance philosophies needed to maintain operational readiness within a system of systems? The training audience is heterogeneous; how can we incorporate tech to build custom training pathways?

  • Operator versus maintainer occupations
  • Training over the horizon – future structure of training system with Allies (NATO ACT)
  • Preparing for the step changes in technology
  • Virtual training
  • AI (operations & maintenance)

10:25 – 11:00

Networking Break  

11:00 – 12:00

Panel 2

Moderator:
Patrice Miron, Team Lead, Program Management Support Office, Department of National Defence  


Panelists:

Cara Salci, Vice President of Growth, Industry and Corporate Affairs, Thales Canada

Marc LeBlanc, Senior Director Business Development, Integrated Mission Systems (IMS) Segment, MAS Canada

Ian Flight, CPSP Program Manager, Babcock Canada Inc.

Continuous Capability Sustainment

  • What is it? What are the opportunities?
  • How can industry contribute?
  • CCS and how it will shape the future opportunities for Canadian industry to be involved with CPSP

12:00 – 13:00

Lunch & Networking

Paula Folkes, Associate Assistant Deputy Minister, Defence and Marine Procurement Branch

13:00 – 13:30

Luncheon Keynote

13:30 – 14:30

Panel 3

Moderator:

Commodore Laurence (Larry) Hickey RCN (Ret’d)

Panelists:

Rear-Admiral Nigel Greenwood RCN (Ret’d)

Brian May, Section Head, Scientific & Engineering Trials, Atlantic Research Centre

Denis Couillard, Director of Solutions Development, Ultra I&C

Tech Tools to Operate in the Arctic

ONSAF makes Arctic a top priority for CAF. The threat has been forced under water therefore the need to explore what is required to detect and counter the underwater threat. What tech is needed for a submarine to do its job, all within a system of systems approach to operations in the Arctic.

  • Choke point operations
  • Monitoring
  • Uncrewed systems
  • Sensors
  • Communications

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14:30 – 15:00

Networking Break

Rear-Admiral Nigel Greenwood RCN (Ret’d), Owner, Seax Strategy Group Inc

Commander Darcy Byrtus RCN (Ret’d), Former President, BMT Canada

David Hudock, National Director, Defence & Federal Government Relations, PCL Construction

15:00 – 15:50

Closing Fireside Chat

Preparing for an Unprecedented Future / Championing Step Change, an Industry Perspective

How can Industry be a part of this enterprise?

What we need to do for transformation? What does industry do different from the military as part of CPSP transformation to a new class of submarine?

15:50 – 16:00

Closing Summary

Master of Ceremonies: Sarah McMillan, Chief Operating Officer, Babcock Canada

Terri Pavelic, Editor in Chief, Vanguard Media

16:00 – 18:00

Reception